followed by multiple access violations. it seems like it is a problem with spysweeper and PPM server. this is the reason why it was only occouring on 1 machine. the PPM server. the file that seems to get broken is RPROUIWS.INI they delete the file and then it works untill they get back into RPRO. that file when deleted deletes the PPM server settings in WS prefs. reset backup close RPRO and it will happen. We removed spysweeper and it seemed to fix it.